Patch 3.1 Complete Paladin Talents Review Part 5

Woot Part 5. Not sure how much I will get done here, but lets dig into the Ret Tree.

Here are links to the previous parts -
Part 1 - Part 2 - Part 3 - Part 4

Tier 1 Ret Talents

Deflection Ranks 1 to 5
Increases your Parry chance by 1% (2%, 3%, 4%, 5%)
Comments - Ahh, a tanking talent in Ret. This is so that all tanks take points in Ret. This is CORE for Tanking. Could help with some survival in pvp, but beyond that, nope.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Benediction
Ranks 1 to 5
Reduces the mana cost of all instant cast spells by 2% (4%, 6%, 8%, 10%).
Comments - Since all damaging spells are instant cast, this is a must have for DPS, since they have very little way to get mana back. Used to be good for tanks and still can be if you don't take the other mana returning abilities. Good for soloing healers as well and holy shockers!

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 2 Ret Talents

Improved Judgements
Ranks 1 to 2
Decreases the cooldown of your Judgement spells by 1 (2) sec.
Comments - 1 Point is CORE for tanks. This allows the 9 6 9 rotation. 2 points for DPS since it is good to have it available whenever you can get it, since they cannot keep up a 969. For Healers, can be handy for soloing, but beyond that nope.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Heart of the Crusader Ranks 1 to 3
In addition to the normal effect, your Judgement spells will also increase the critical strike chance of all attacks made against that target by an additional 1% (2%, 3%).
Comments - This is a nice talent for tanks, but not core. Doesn't help healing, but it is core for DPS. Giving a group wide benefit of a 3% crit to the target is very nice.

PVE Healing

PVP Healing

PVE Main Tanking

PVE Off Tanking

PVE DPS

PVP DPS

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Improved Blessing of Might
Ranks 1 to 2
Increases the attack power bonus of your Blessing of Might by 12% (25%).
Comments - Now that all the paladins have kings, the debate is who brings improved BoM? The answer is whoever has spare points. So this is a rank of 1 for everyone but DPS, 2 ranks for them, since, this is their tree.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 3 Ret Talents

Vindication Ranks 1 to 2
Gives the Paladin's damaging attacks a chance to reduce the target's attributes by 10% (20%) for 15 sec.
Comments - Healers, nope, they don't want this. Tanks on the other hand, this can be useful along with DPS. But it is not core by any means.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Conviction Ranks 1 to 5
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with all spells and attacks by 1%.
Comments - This is CORE for DPS. This could also be considered CORE for healing, cause remember, Crit gives back mana and gives bigger heals. For tanks, it will help with threat. Rank it!

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Seal of Command Rank 1
Gives the Paladin a chance to deal 0.5535 to 0.5535 additional Holy damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 min.

Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 0.65 to 0.65 Holy damage. This attack will always be a critical strike if the target is stunned or incapacitated.
Comments - A new Seal that only can be gotten by Ret. Is it handy? Could be, but Seal of Blood/Matyr is the preferred dps seal. The nice thing is this is good in pvp for unloading dps when their target is stunned. So not sure really how to rank this one....

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Pursuit of Justice Ranks 1 to 2
Reduces the duration of all Disarm effects by 25% (50%) and increases movement and mounted movement speed by 8% (16%). This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.
Comments - This can be handy for any paladin that is finding they need to run faster, from dps to tanks, I see some healers take it as well. It is also nice for tanks not to be disarmed as well. So lets rank it.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 4 Ret Talents

Eye for an Eye Ranks 1 to 2
All criticals against you cause 10% (20%) of the damage taken to the attacker as well. The damage caused by Eye for an Eye will not exceed 50% of the Paladin's total health.
Comments - This is a pvp talent. Here is why. Bosses should not crit a tank if they are properly defensed. DPS and healers should not be getting hit in pve. That leaves PVP. CORE for DPS PVP and good for Healer PVP if they have some points to spend.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Sanctity of Battle Ranks 1 to 3
Increases your chance to critically hit with all spells and attacks by 1% (2%, 3%) and increases the damage caused by Exorcism and Crusader Strike by 5% (10%, 15%).
Comments - This is where some healing experts need to help me out. Does it increase the crit of heals? Do heals hit? If so, healers want this one. I think it does, so I will put this as a good one for all classes. Ranking it.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Crusade Ranks 1 to 3
Increases all damage caused by 1% (2%, 3%) and all damage caused against Humanoids, Demons, Undead and Elementals by an additional 1% (2%, 3%).
Comments - No healing, CORE for DPS, good for the Crusader Tank speck that gets it name from it.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 5 Ret Talents

Two-Handed Weapon Specialization Ranks 1 to 3
Increases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 2% (4%, 6%).
Comments - Since only DPS paladins use two handers and this ups their dps, it is core for them. All others, move along....

PVE Healing

PVP Healing

PVE Main Tanking

PVE Off Tanking

PVE DPS

PVP DPS

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Sanctified Retribution Ranks 1
Increases the damage caused by Retribution Aura by 50% and all damage caused by friendly targets affected by any of your Auras is increased by 3%.
Comments - CORE for DPS. If you are a tank or healer that made it down this far and have a spare point, pick it up as well.

PVE Healing	PVP Healing	PVE Main Tanking	PVE Off Tanking	PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 6 Ret Talents
Ok, at this point, you are a dps paladin if you are this far down the tree. So lets up our damage!!!

Vengence Ranks 1 to 3
Gives you a 1% (2%, 3%) bonus to Physical and Holy damage you deal for 30 sec after dealing a critical strike from a weapon swing, spell, or ability. This effect stacks up to 3 times.
Comments - Does it up DPS for both PVP and PVE? Yes, Yes it does. But more for PVE. PVP, the fights should be long over by the time this procs. Rank it!

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Divine Purpose Ranks 1 to 2
Reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 2% (4%) and gives your Hand of Freedom spell a 50% (100%) chance to remove any Stun effects on the target.
Comments - This is a pvp talent. Remember in pve, you should not be getting hit and getting stunned for that matter.

PVE DPS

PVP DPS

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 7 Ret Talents

The Art of War Ranks 1 to 2
Increases the damage of your Judgement, Crusader Strike and Divine Storm abilities by 5% (10%) and when these abilities critically hit the cast time of your next Flash of Light is reduced by 0.75 sec (is an instant cast).
Comments - Ok, it increases damage, so that is good and has a weird goofy bit for Flash of Light... Like any Ret Paladins use Flash of Light in combat LOL..... Still because of the increase damage, it is a good one to pick up.

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Repentance Rank 1
Puts the enemy target in a state of meditation, incapacitating them for up to 1 min. Any damage caused will awaken the target. Usable against Demons, Dragonkin, Giants, Humanoids and Undead.
Comments - A Form of Crowd Control, can be useful in low level PVE, good for PVP. Also combined with Seal of Command for some crit damage. This is still core for both since it is a pre req.

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Jusgements of the Wise Ranks 1 to 3
Your Judgement spells have a 33% (66%, 100%) chance to grant the Replenishment effect to up to 10 party or raid members mana regeneration equal to 0.25% of their maximum mana per second for 15 sec, and to immediately grant you 25% of your base mana.
Comments - This is Core. This is how Ret paladins can have such small mana pools.

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 8 Ret Talents

FanaticsmRanks 1 to 3
Increases the critical strike chance of all Judgements capable of a critical hit by 6% (12%, 18%) and reduces threat caused by all actions by 10% (20%, 30%) except when under the effects of Righteous Fury.
Comments - This is core. It increases damage!

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Sanctified Wrath Ranks 1 to 2
Increases the critical strike chance of Hammer of Wrath by 25% (50%), reduces the cooldown of Avenging Wrath by 30 (60) secs and while affected by Avenging Wrath 25% (50%) of all damage caused bypasses damage reduction effects.
Comments - CORE. It makes the finisher, finish harder, give you wings more frequently. Kill Angel, Kill...

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 9 Ret Talents

Swift Retribution Ranks 1 to 3
Your auras also increase casting, ranged and melee attack speeds by 1% (2%, 3%).
Comments - This is a definite boost for Raiding. Can also help with pvp.

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Crusader Strike Rank 1
An instant strike that causes 110% weapon damage. 6 sec cooldown.
Comments - Another button to hit to cause more damage every six seconds. Ya, this is a CORE talent for Ret.

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Sheath of Light
Ranks 1 to 3
Increases your spell power by an amount equal to 10% (20% , 30%) of your attack power and your critical healing spells heal the target for 20% (40%, 60%) of the healed amount over 12 seconds.
Comments - Again a strange talent, ups dps and gives healing. The way it ups dps is each paladin spell does holy spell damage, based on spell power and attack power. This also makes Judging Light really good for Ret paladins, allowing them to help keep the raid healed while dpsing.

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 10 Ret Talents

Righteous Vengeance Ranks 1 to 3
When your Judgement, Crusader Strike and Divine Storm spells deal a critical strike, your target will take 10% (20%, 30%) additional damage over 8 sec.
Comments - Adds a DOT to the target. More PVE, but still handy for PVP.

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

Tier 11 Ret Talents

Divine Storm Rank 1
An instant weapon attack that causes 110% of weapon damage to up to 4 enemies within 0 yards. The Divine Storm heals up to 3 party or raid members totaling 25% of the damage caused.
Comments - Top Ret Talent. Another button to push that does damage to multiple targets and heals your party too! Must for PVE, ok for PVP to help unload damage.

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

PVE DPS	PVP DPS

So there you have it all three trees reviewed. Now how do the core builds look for each?

Healing PVE - With some optional picks to get to the bottom of the tree.
Healing PVP
Main Tank PVE - With Divine Gaurdian
Main Tank PVE - With Divinity
Off Tank PVE - This has most of the optional talents removed, but can still have things switched around.
DPS PVE - Again, with some recommended ones in that are not CORE, cause the only way to get to the bottom of the tree.
DPS PVP - Again with some recommened and not CORE to get to the lower part of the tree. Just swap them out for what you want.

So there is my review.

Again, let me know what you think and if I agree I will update it!

Thanks and GO PALADINS!!!!